Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Render to object has strange behavior.
First several times a tried it I got error messages then the render to file panel opens, now it renders the file then shows the render to file panel.
First several times a tried it I got error messages then the render to file panel opens, now it renders the file then shows the render to file panel.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Fixed bug in renderpass floating panel
Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for the heads up.
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function Execute(params)
{
WindowsManager.CloseWindow("Project/Windows Manager Space/RP_PanelFrame")
var rpf = Space.CurrentScene() + "/YafaRay4tS/RP_PanelFrame";
if (Node.Exists(rpf))
{
//Node.Value(rpf, "RootNode") = rpf;
Node.Value(rpf, "RootNode") = System.ThisOwner();
Node.Value(rpf + "/Panel Node", "PanelEditorNode") = Space.CurrentScene() + "/YafaRay4tS/RenderPasses";
Node.Copy(rpf, "/Project/Windows Manager Space");
WindowsManager.Activate();
WindowsManager.UpdateWindowsStructure();
}
}-
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Sample scenes are done. Including a blend material demo.
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... faray.html
Some have slightly older versions of lights and materials.
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... faray.html
Some have slightly older versions of lights and materials.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Changed Blend Material Collection - was using old materials, red numbers where only on the first 2 materials, changed default to a shiny diffuse material
bug - reset default settings not working - fixed the bug and moved the code to a command node YafaRay4tS/ResetToDefaults
bug - procedural type material textures were giving a false error - MaterialsFnSet about line 118
bug - BlendMaterial preview had old code for fixing the procedural texture direction - not needed anymore and incorrect now, so removed negative U processing
bug - reset default settings not working - fixed the bug and moved the code to a command node YafaRay4tS/ResetToDefaults
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function Execute(params)
{
var CONFLG_IN = 4
var CONFLG_HIDDEN = 32
var utilitydata = System.CreateDO("Clintons3D Package/Utility functions");
var yafNode = Space.CurrentScene() + "/YafaRay4tS";
var thedata = utilitydata.GetConnectorData(yafNode );
var connectors = thedata.split("\n");
for(var i=0;i<connectors.length;i++)
{
connector = connectors[i].split("\t");
if(connector[3] & CONFLG_IN && !(connector[3] & CONFLG_HIDDEN))
Node.ConReset(yafNode, connector[0])
}
Activity.Run(yafNode + "/Watch Dog Event");
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if (data.ShaderAspect == 0) {
if(Errors.AddIfImageExtensionBad(data.FileName)) {
System.Trace("Texture file error for " + data.FileName);
}
File.WriteLine('\t<type sval="image"/>');
if (data.textureType != "bump")
File.WriteLine('\t<gamma fval="' + data.gamma + '"/>');
File.WriteLine(' \t<filename sval="' + data.FileName.replace(/\\/g, '/') + '"/>');
if (data.textureType == "bump" && data.isnormalmap)
File.WriteLine('\t<normalmap bval="true"/>');
}-
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Here it is, still does not work as expected in Camera View. (Does not Zoom in like the View does)clintonman wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 06:02Your YafarayScripts is old. If the change is an improvement add it to the attached scripts.trueBlue wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 02:46 ...
Also uploading the YafaraySscripts.RsObj that you can try. There is notes inside. Still does not work very well in Camera View.
You will need to add a button to the Render to File to save the image.
As it is now it renders the scene.
From what I can tell it looks like you need to save the Convert Format bitmap in case the OptDetector Viewer is being used?
Probably need to do the same to the Open Render Passes too.Found solution for Render to File popup dialog
inside YafaRay4tS/open panel node
changed
Node.Value(r2f, "RootNode") = r2f;
to
Node.Value(r2f, "RootNode") = System.ThisOwner();
I have added the RenderPassList.txt to both tS761B84 and tS761B8Std4
Using your code to open YafaRay4tS Help you could add it to the RenderPass panel
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WshShell = new ActiveXObject("WScript.Shell");
help = 'file:///' + System.GetMainDir() + '\/RenderPassList.txt';
//change all \ to /
var re;
re = /\\/g;
help2 = help.replace(re,"\/");
WshShell.Run(help2);Edit: Removed due to update
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Bug: TIF files will render but cannot be displayed inside trueSpace
YafaRay4tS/DoFrameRender added lines to check for and alert:
YafaRay4tS/RenderAnim2 added lines to alert the user
YafaRay4tS/DoFrameRender added lines to check for and alert:
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var useInternal = Node.Value(owner, "Yaf_UseInternalViewer");
if(useInternal && fileExt.toLowerCase() == "tif") {
Errors.Add("Warning: TIF files will not display inside trueSpace" )
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var fs = new ActiveXObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject");
var fileExt = fs.GetExtensionName(oldFN);
var useInternal = Node.Value(owner, "Yaf_UseInternalViewer");
if(useInternal && fileExt.toLowerCase() == "tif") {
System.Alert("Warning: TIF files will not display inside trueSpace" );
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Your YafarayScripts is old. If the change is an improvement add it to the attached scripts.trueBlue wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 02:46 ...
Also uploading the YafaraySscripts.RsObj that you can try. There is notes inside. Still does not work very well in Camera View.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Found solution for Render to File popup dialog
inside YafaRay4tS/open panel node
changed
Node.Value(r2f, "RootNode") = r2f;
to
Node.Value(r2f, "RootNode") = System.ThisOwner();
inside YafaRay4tS/open panel node
changed
Node.Value(r2f, "RootNode") = r2f;
to
Node.Value(r2f, "RootNode") = System.ThisOwner();
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Image of popup panel and yafaray4ts render to file aspect
Bug: The Render to File popup will update values but not display the updated values. May have to give up on the popup panel idea.
Bug: The Render to File popup will update values but not display the updated values. May have to give up on the popup panel idea.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Not sure if you understood what the YafaRay4tS toolbar.RsObj in the Yafaray Setup library is for. It's purpose is to reopen the toolbar incase a user closes it. The one you included in your last installer loaded an old prototype toolbar node in the scene.
The YafaRay4tS.RsScn and light setup in your last installer had the old lights and camera. Using your scene light's location and values, I updated them with the new lights. There is a big difference with the amount of light in the scene with the new lights. It is darker. I am pretty sure it has to do with the Attenuation changes.
I updated your installer with your Reset Toobar scripts.
Also uploading the YafaraySscripts.RsObj that you can try. There is notes inside. Still does not work very well in Camera View.
Edit: Removed due to update
The YafaRay4tS.RsScn and light setup in your last installer had the old lights and camera. Using your scene light's location and values, I updated them with the new lights. There is a big difference with the amount of light in the scene with the new lights. It is darker. I am pretty sure it has to do with the Attenuation changes.
I updated your installer with your Reset Toobar scripts.
Also uploading the YafaraySscripts.RsObj that you can try. There is notes inside. Still does not work very well in Camera View.
Edit: Removed due to update
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Installer was based on old versions so had to pick and choose and add to the latest which has all the bug fixes.trueBlue wrote: 06 Jul 2018, 05:32 Nice work on all of the changes Clinton!
I tried RC-1, I did not see any problem with the installer.
Except for the access file error with or without the libraries opened. Always have to select the Install button twice.
I did see a problem with a couple of lights though.
I think it was the infinite or Point default aspect color picker, I forget now.
But the Directional Color aspect image color picker was missing the code.
I have updated your installer with the lights, new toolbar buttons, and libraries.
Changes:
Added a Render to File icon.
Added more commands to some of the toolbar buttons
Iconized the Material library
Light's Edge opacity lowered to 0.100
Added an error check if string is empty to the IES Spot Generate IES Preview button
Camera has been fixed and updated
Added Status message to the Reset Defaults and Save Settings.
Added the following line to the YafarayScripts/RenderObject.Let me know if you are okay with the changes so that we are in sync with the Update 4.Code: Select all
if (Node.FirstSelected() == "") {return;}if (Node.IsLight('')) {return;}if (Node.IsCamera('')) {return;}if (!Node.ConExists(Node.FirstSelected(), 'ObjMatrix')) {return;}
It's up to you if you want to include the materials or not.
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Also not included. I have a better RenderObject Zoom 2 Object, if interested.
"Except for the access file error with or without the libraries opened. Always have to select the Install button twice." - don't know this one
"Camera has been fixed and updated" - don't know what was broken. I think I added it to the new installer but not sure
Camera button was not working - fixed it
Removed all texture based materials - only valid in tS761 not tS761Std
Texture Bump Transparency didn't work at all here. You should fix this one and add them all to the UnOfficial Update for tS761(not Std unless you recreate for it)
Changed IES light to have a preview again and provided more robust error messages
Replaced the out of date Map node used for texturing materials
Render Object changes not included. Do another based on this latest if you want to have it in there. Your stuff was based on an old version and it was getting tricky to separate the old from the new.
changed the way the "Save Settings" button works. Before it would destroy the old and replace with new. Problem was an old version could completely replace a newer version. Now the values are copied and then the node is saved.
RC-4 is attached with most of the changes from rc-2 and RC-2 included.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Nice work on all of the changes Clinton!
I tried RC-1, I did not see any problem with the installer.
Except for the access file error with or without the libraries opened. Always have to select the Install button twice.
I did see a problem with a couple of lights though.
I think it was the infinite or Point default aspect color picker, I forget now.
But the Directional Color aspect image color picker was missing the code.
I have updated your installer with the lights, new toolbar buttons, and libraries.
Changes:
Added a Render to File icon.
Added more commands to some of the toolbar buttons
Iconized the Material library
Light's Edge opacity lowered to 0.100
Added an error check if string is empty to the IES Spot Generate IES Preview button
Camera has been fixed and updated
Added Status message to the Reset Defaults and Save Settings.
Added the following line to the YafarayScripts/RenderObject.
Let me know if you are okay with the changes so that we are in sync with the Update 4.
It's up to you if you want to include the materials or not. Also not included. I have a better RenderObject Zoom 2 Object, if interested.
Edit: Removed due to update
I tried RC-1, I did not see any problem with the installer.
Except for the access file error with or without the libraries opened. Always have to select the Install button twice.
I did see a problem with a couple of lights though.
I think it was the infinite or Point default aspect color picker, I forget now.
But the Directional Color aspect image color picker was missing the code.
I have updated your installer with the lights, new toolbar buttons, and libraries.
Changes:
Added a Render to File icon.
Added more commands to some of the toolbar buttons
Iconized the Material library
Light's Edge opacity lowered to 0.100
Added an error check if string is empty to the IES Spot Generate IES Preview button
Camera has been fixed and updated
Added Status message to the Reset Defaults and Save Settings.
Added the following line to the YafarayScripts/RenderObject.
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if (Node.FirstSelected() == "") {return;}if (Node.IsLight('')) {return;}if (Node.IsCamera('')) {return;}if (!Node.ConExists(Node.FirstSelected(), 'ObjMatrix')) {return;}It's up to you if you want to include the materials or not. Also not included. I have a better RenderObject Zoom 2 Object, if interested.
Edit: Removed due to update
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Found a problem with the installer. Fixed in RC-2
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
First sharable scene is ready. Others will be added soon.
absorbscatter-2spot - demo of volumetrics
outdoors - path tracing and sunsky lighting - shapes outside
glossyasdiffuse - supposed to demo some feature that doesn't exist, cornel box
glass - yafaray glass material
max3dKuchnia - kitchen scene
alphaint_mappaing - alpha intensity mapping leaf
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... faray.html
absorbscatter-2spot - demo of volumetrics
outdoors - path tracing and sunsky lighting - shapes outside
glossyasdiffuse - supposed to demo some feature that doesn't exist, cornel box
glass - yafaray glass material
max3dKuchnia - kitchen scene
alphaint_mappaing - alpha intensity mapping leaf
http://clintons3d.com/plugins/truespace ... faray.html
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
YafaRay Installer RC-1
changes:
updated installer with changes
fixed background preview scale slider to not use negative numbers
error message if render width or height is less than 1 pixel
check for and error if animation start frame is greater than the end frame
render animation abort with "esc" key give error message and clear status via timer
removed IES generator script, function included in each yafaray ies light
light brightness adjustment for whole scene - used for lighting models that depend on bounced light which, purpose is to match the rendered result and is purely a visual effect
changes:
updated installer with changes
fixed background preview scale slider to not use negative numbers
error message if render width or height is less than 1 pixel
check for and error if animation start frame is greater than the end frame
render animation abort with "esc" key give error message and clear status via timer
removed IES generator script, function included in each yafaray ies light
light brightness adjustment for whole scene - used for lighting models that depend on bounced light which, purpose is to match the rendered result and is purely a visual effect
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Putting together a trueSpace Update 4 with YafaRay4tS beta, which will include new trueSpace lights with your Color Picker, new Yafaray toolbar, and new Yafaray libraries. Most likely very late tonight or early tomorrow.
Do you have a trueSpace version of your new IES Spot?
Guessing but it looks like I can remove the Yafaray stuff from the Yafaray IES Spot and that would work with tS?
Do you have a trueSpace version of your new IES Spot?
Guessing but it looks like I can remove the Yafaray stuff from the Yafaray IES Spot and that would work with tS?
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Thanks a lot...fast and clear answer...as usual! 
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Here is a quote from one of the original creators of YafaRay4tSthe_ant wrote: 04 Jul 2018, 11:54 Hi Clintonman and trueBlue...![]()
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while I admire your hard-work on this plugin I would like to know if there is a comparision scheme "vRay vs YafaRay" (tSp versions).
The question : will YafaRay-renders be better of vRay-renders ?
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This was a comparison of an older version of YafaRay. I don't know how VRay compares to the newer version of YafaRay and I don't know if the glass problem in VRay was ever addressed.Jack Edwards wrote: 10 Jun 2009, 03:21 ...
As far as comparison goes, I'd say that a big advantage for YafaRay is that it's glass material actually works, where as tsVRay has some problematic bugs related to glass. On the other hand VRay is definitely faster and has an SSS shader.
As far as render quality goes, it's really about learning the render engines. You can do professional work in both.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Hi Clintonman and trueBlue...
while I admire your hard-work on this plugin I would like to know if there is a comparision scheme "vRay vs YafaRay" (tSp versions).
The question : will YafaRay-renders be better of vRay-renders ?

while I admire your hard-work on this plugin I would like to know if there is a comparision scheme "vRay vs YafaRay" (tSp versions).
The question : will YafaRay-renders be better of vRay-renders ?
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
YafaRay4tS updates today
changed default solid color background to trueSpace blue
altered the Yafaray Node Camera defaults to angle=90, max angle=90, mirror=false, circular=false
added a valid texture file type check to the materials, specifically the Map node
added an error system to the render process - now just has the same valid texture check as the materials
next need the same texture checks for animation render
changed default solid color background to trueSpace blue
altered the Yafaray Node Camera defaults to angle=90, max angle=90, mirror=false, circular=false
added a valid texture file type check to the materials, specifically the Map node
added an error system to the render process - now just has the same valid texture check as the materials
next need the same texture checks for animation render
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Nope, "sphere size exports the scale value instead of the size attribute", so size isn't read by the exporter anymore.trueBlue wrote: 04 Jul 2018, 00:52 In your ToDo list before you released the Lights, you mentioned that the Size attribute needed to be added to the Default aspect on the Sphere light. It is not there. Do you want me to add it?
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
In your ToDo list before you released the Lights, you mentioned that the Size attribute needed to be added to the Default aspect on the Sphere light. It is not there. Do you want me to add it?
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
If it is important I can put a jScriptObject in between.trueBlue wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 16:36Testing the Resetsclintonman wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 07:18 Lights are ready.
Changes:
Changed attenuation values for ies light, spotlight, point light, sphere light and area light
changed default power for some lights
Changed the power multiplier in the preview:
ies light = 4 * sqrt(power)
spotlight = 4 * power
pointlight = 2 * power
spherelight = 2 * power * scale
arealight = power * (scaleX + scaleY)/2
sphere size exports the scale value instead of the size attribute
new integrated ies light generator - GenerateIESprofileScript node in YafaRayFolder not used anymore
Want to confirm that this is correct or not.
Infinite, Point, and Area 'Cast Shadow' - Reset is unchecked?
Sun and Sphere 'Cast Shadow' - Reset does not Reset checked or unchecked?
Directional, Spot, and IES Spot 'Cast Shadow' - Reset is checked?
Directional 'Size' Reset is 0.785
params.Param('vtData') = true;
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
I don't knwo what you mean by "right", so I guess you're trying to make basic material. In that case you dont need the diffuse reflection map and basic transparency doesn't need a translucency map. Maybe the material and material modulation sections of the yafaray docs can help: http://www.yafaray.org/documentation/userguidetrueBlue wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 02:05 ..
Here is a couple of materials I made.
Can you look at them and make sure they are right?
They are using images from the tS Texture folder so they should transfer over.
Yafaray Materials.png
Can the Blend be made into a Material?
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
I didn't do anything with those. I looked at one and it was controlled by a closed node so I ignored all of them.trueBlue wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 16:36Testing the Resetsclintonman wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 07:18 Lights are ready.
Changes:
Changed attenuation values for ies light, spotlight, point light, sphere light and area light
changed default power for some lights
Changed the power multiplier in the preview:
ies light = 4 * sqrt(power)
spotlight = 4 * power
pointlight = 2 * power
spherelight = 2 * power * scale
arealight = power * (scaleX + scaleY)/2
sphere size exports the scale value instead of the size attribute
new integrated ies light generator - GenerateIESprofileScript node in YafaRayFolder not used anymore
Want to confirm that this is correct or not.
Infinite, Point, and Area 'Cast Shadow' - Reset is unchecked?
Sun and Sphere 'Cast Shadow' - Reset does not Reset checked or unchecked?
Directional, Spot, and IES Spot 'Cast Shadow' - Reset is checked?
Directional 'Size' Reset is 0.785
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Testing the Resetsclintonman wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 07:18 Lights are ready.
Changes:
Changed attenuation values for ies light, spotlight, point light, sphere light and area light
changed default power for some lights
Changed the power multiplier in the preview:
ies light = 4 * sqrt(power)
spotlight = 4 * power
pointlight = 2 * power
spherelight = 2 * power * scale
arealight = power * (scaleX + scaleY)/2
sphere size exports the scale value instead of the size attribute
new integrated ies light generator - GenerateIESprofileScript node in YafaRayFolder not used anymore
Want to confirm that this is correct or not.
Infinite, Point, and Area 'Cast Shadow' - Reset is unchecked?
Sun and Sphere 'Cast Shadow' - Reset does not Reset checked or unchecked?
Directional, Spot, and IES Spot 'Cast Shadow' - Reset is checked?
Directional 'Size' Reset is 0.785
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Got a HTTP error when posting with an attachment.
I think you have to wait for the upload to finish before you can push the submit button
I think you have to wait for the upload to finish before you can push the submit button
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Lights are ready.
Changes:
Changed attenuation values for ies light, spotlight, point light, sphere light and area light
changed default power for some lights
Changed the power multiplier in the preview:
ies light = 4 * sqrt(power)
spotlight = 4 * power
pointlight = 2 * power
spherelight = 2 * power * scale
arealight = power * (scaleX + scaleY)/2
sphere size exports the scale value instead of the size attribute
new integrated ies light generator - GenerateIESprofileScript node in YafaRayFolder not used anymore
Changes:
Changed attenuation values for ies light, spotlight, point light, sphere light and area light
changed default power for some lights
Changed the power multiplier in the preview:
ies light = 4 * sqrt(power)
spotlight = 4 * power
pointlight = 2 * power
spherelight = 2 * power * scale
arealight = power * (scaleX + scaleY)/2
sphere size exports the scale value instead of the size attribute
new integrated ies light generator - GenerateIESprofileScript node in YafaRayFolder not used anymore
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
BIG TIME difference!
The colors match much better.
Here is the Background color I was referring to.
So far no black background problem.
Thank you! Here is a couple of materials I made.
Can you look at them and make sure they are right?
They are using images from the tS Texture folder so they should transfer over. Can the Blend be made into a Material?
The colors match much better.
Here is the Background color I was referring to.
So far no black background problem.
Thank you! Here is a couple of materials I made.
Can you look at them and make sure they are right?
They are using images from the tS Texture folder so they should transfer over. Can the Blend be made into a Material?
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Not wires but the actual export with the 2 values switched in code. Ends up my theory was wrong, had nothing to do with reversed values but with the fact the tS could export transparent as false and mat transparent refraction as true. That combination isn't possible from Blender. I still need to check that it's working properly.trueBlue wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 01:03FYI..I fooled around with the "Mat trans refr" with the previous update with the White background.clintonman wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 23:41 Try using the background settings "Trans bg" and "Mat trans refr", but know that I think there may be a bug with the 2 checkboxes being reversed in the export. Also the "Mat trans refr" should have no effect unless "Trans bg" is also selected, but it does.
Not understanding why there would be a problem with the exported wires. They just export to the front of the panel as I understand it. They were Linked right on the Background aspect and I checked to see if there were mutiple wires hooked up. All seemed okay. What I did notice though as soon as I checked "Mat trans refr", the backgound render turned black.
Also experimented with trying to match the default Workspace background color. Just an idea but was thinking the default Yaf Background Type should be None, with a blue background color like Workspace? Power not sure. Did not succeed in color that rendered the same as Workspace. It looks washed out or lighter if you will.
Off to try your new update. Thank You!
The settings for gamma and color space have a big impact on color output. I think the newest update above may have better default values. gamma in of 1.0, gamma out of 2.2 and srgb color space are the current default values.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
FYI..I fooled around with the "Mat trans refr" with the previous update with the White background.clintonman wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 23:41 Try using the background settings "Trans bg" and "Mat trans refr", but know that I think there may be a bug with the 2 checkboxes being reversed in the export. Also the "Mat trans refr" should have no effect unless "Trans bg" is also selected, but it does.
Not understanding why there would be a problem with the exported wires. They just export to the front of the panel as I understand it. They were Linked right on the Background aspect and I checked to see if there were mutiple wires hooked up. All seemed okay. What I did notice though as soon as I checked "Mat trans refr", the backgound render turned black.
Also experimented with trying to match the default Workspace background color. Just an idea but was thinking the default Yaf Background Type should be None, with a blue background color like Workspace? Power not sure. Did not succeed in color that rendered the same as Workspace. It looks washed out or lighter if you will.
Off to try your new update. Thank You!
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Not done with the lights yet.trueBlue wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 23:52 ...
If you are done with the Yaf lights in the Lights.RsObj, could you upload those as well?
Wanting to finalize all of the lights for the Update 4, and it would be easier if I had the Yaf lights.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Attached is the latest version of the YafaRay4tS node.
List of changes here is updated from a previous post.
MaterialFnSet - blend material scene value was not set
RendertoFile tab - changed width and height which were coming from the render area instead of render size
Reset Defaults Button - changed to general reset code
defaults for input color space=sRGB, yaf gamma in=1.0
defaults from Render node -png file format, run minimized...
update opti display node - add line to clear status
added open temp folder button
ShowDisplayFnSet - partial save timer(PST) update and fix status display
CameraFnSet - if invalid camera try last camera added to scene before defaulting to view mode
background transparent - default false
background mat transp refract set to false when exporting if transparent background is set to false
Reset defaults - added Watchdog run
renamed "Draw Settings Parameter" heading to "More Settings"
LightsFnSet - export tS default infinite light
MaterialFnSet - check for invalid map nodes created when user adds a map then does not press the switch button to activate it
cleaned code - removed debugging System.Trace from various nodes
background defaults color gray and power 1.0
Lights:
got attenuation values and color multiply math to match renders better
flipped exported geometry of area light - was upside down in the render
Todo:
add light attenuation control - light previews are not valid when lighting models depend on bounced light
make sample scene with a blend material - all other sample scenes are done
finish new ies light preview
sphere light needs size attribute on the default tab
area light needs render checkbox on the default tab
match YafaRay node camera defaults to yafaray camera defaults
check for unsupported image file formats
stress test - try to break it and patch the holes
List of changes here is updated from a previous post.
MaterialFnSet - blend material scene value was not set
RendertoFile tab - changed width and height which were coming from the render area instead of render size
Reset Defaults Button - changed to general reset code
defaults for input color space=sRGB, yaf gamma in=1.0
defaults from Render node -png file format, run minimized...
update opti display node - add line to clear status
added open temp folder button
ShowDisplayFnSet - partial save timer(PST) update and fix status display
CameraFnSet - if invalid camera try last camera added to scene before defaulting to view mode
background transparent - default false
background mat transp refract set to false when exporting if transparent background is set to false
Reset defaults - added Watchdog run
renamed "Draw Settings Parameter" heading to "More Settings"
LightsFnSet - export tS default infinite light
MaterialFnSet - check for invalid map nodes created when user adds a map then does not press the switch button to activate it
cleaned code - removed debugging System.Trace from various nodes
background defaults color gray and power 1.0
Lights:
got attenuation values and color multiply math to match renders better
flipped exported geometry of area light - was upside down in the render
Todo:
add light attenuation control - light previews are not valid when lighting models depend on bounced light
make sample scene with a blend material - all other sample scenes are done
finish new ies light preview
sphere light needs size attribute on the default tab
area light needs render checkbox on the default tab
match YafaRay node camera defaults to yafaray camera defaults
check for unsupported image file formats
stress test - try to break it and patch the holes
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
I have already tried the Background settings before I originally posted about this thinking that maybe the defaults were changed. I am guessing that your last update may be corrupted. Are you saying that in your version, with the default settings, default lights, and rendering a simple cube produces a White background?
If so how about you upload the present version?
If you are done with the Yaf lights in the Lights.RsObj, could you upload those as well?
Wanting to finalize all of the lights for the Update 4, and it would be easier if I had the Yaf lights.
If so how about you upload the present version?
If you are done with the Yaf lights in the Lights.RsObj, could you upload those as well?
Wanting to finalize all of the lights for the Update 4, and it would be easier if I had the Yaf lights.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
I think I understand what you're saying. The background is an unexpected black color.trueBlue wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 23:14Seriously?clintonman wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 22:31 I see an orange cube in your render. Previous was a back render. So the problem is...?
Downloaded the previous YafaRay4tS.RSObj, same scene.
White background like has been since the very begining until this last update.
Try using the background settings "Trans bg" and "Mat trans refr", but know that I think there may be a bug with the 2 checkboxes being reversed in the export. Also the "Mat trans refr" should have no effect unless "Trans bg" is also selected, but it does.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Seriously?clintonman wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 22:31 I see an orange cube in your render. Previous was a back render. So the problem is...?
Downloaded the previous YafaRay4tS.RSObj, same scene.
White background like has been since the very begining until this last update.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
I see an orange cube in your render. Previous was a back render. So the problem is...?trueBlue wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 21:28 Do you see any error?
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Maybe the last update that you uploaded is corrupted?
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Do you see any error?
Maybe the last update that you uploaded is corrupted?
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
works here. orange cube is rendered.trueBlue wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 19:17 This is your unmodified YafaRay4tS.RsObj from your latest upload.
Just downloaded it again to be sure.
Except for Restoring the Defaults
You can try change settings to 1)not minimizing the console and 2)leave console open after render to see any yafaray errors.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
This is your unmodified YafaRay4tS.RsObj from your latest upload.
Just downloaded it again to be sure.
Except for Restoring the Defaults
Just downloaded it again to be sure.
Except for Restoring the Defaults
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Just you, I guess. If you have anything to share I'll look at it.trueBlue wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 17:56 So is it just me or does your version render black too?
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So is it just me or does your version render black too?
Edit: This is a rendered image and not a screen shot of the Display.
Edit: This is a rendered image and not a screen shot of the Display.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
I think I had it selected in the Yafaray Folder when I pressed the Save Settings button from the Stack.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
I'm guessing you ran this from the YafaRay Folder in the Link editor?trueBlue wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 02:32 This not a good one as it deletes the YafaRay4tS node in the Yafaray Folder.
This happens when you press the Save Settings button when there is no YafaRay4tS node in the scene.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Old ies light on the right, new ies light on the left
Almost done with light work. The preview brightness matches the render more closely.
IES lights preview is improved and is compatible with more ies light files. On a side note, tests show that the YafaRay renderer does not render all ies lights properly.
Almost done with light work. The preview brightness matches the render more closely.
IES lights preview is improved and is compatible with more ies light files. On a side note, tests show that the YafaRay renderer does not render all ies lights properly.
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This not a good one as it deletes the YafaRay4tS node in the Yafaray Folder.
This happens when you press the Save Settings button when there is no YafaRay4tS node in the scene.
This happens when you press the Save Settings button when there is no YafaRay4tS node in the scene.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
For those of us that like to play in the Link Editor with no 3D Window open.
First an Alert. Then an error.
First an Alert. Then an error.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
New toolbar that makes it a little easier with the UI
Moved the Camera out of lights, RMB opens the Camera aspect
Smooth Normals - LMB applies Smooth Normal and opens the Default aspect
Render icons changes:
These are modified copies of the Offline Render icons, no changes to the originals.
Render Animation - RMB opens the Animation aspect
Render Area - RMB opens the Camera aspect
All others RMB opens the Current Lighting Method in use
Smooth Normals - LMB applies Smooth Normal and opens the Default aspect
Render icons changes:
These are modified copies of the Offline Render icons, no changes to the originals.
Render Animation - RMB opens the Animation aspect
Render Area - RMB opens the Camera aspect
All others RMB opens the Current Lighting Method in use
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Okay no problem.
Here is another stab at the Render Object
Concept is to include an encapsulated Camera 'Cam'.
Copy the Eye Camera values to an Object script 'EyeView'
Copy those values to the Cam
Using the Camera to Zoom 2 Object and Render
Copy the EyeView values back to the Eye Camera
It works pretty good and better then the present one.
The Render Object Camera is WIP and does not work.
Edit:
Just notice that when using Render to File it does not render the object, it renders the scene.
The solution is to add a Render Object button on the Render to File using this code:
Or even better would be to save the image without the Library2.DlgGenericSave.
Edit2:
Was able to combine Yafaray View and Camera - Render Object into one.
Zoom 2 Object from Yafaray Camera view is not Zooming in like Yafaray View does
Here is another stab at the Render Object
Concept is to include an encapsulated Camera 'Cam'.
Copy the Eye Camera values to an Object script 'EyeView'
Copy those values to the Cam
Using the Camera to Zoom 2 Object and Render
Copy the EyeView values back to the Eye Camera
It works pretty good and better then the present one.
The Render Object Camera is WIP and does not work.
Edit:
Just notice that when using Render to File it does not render the object, it renders the scene.
The solution is to add a Render Object button on the Render to File using this code:
Code: Select all
Library2.DlgGenericSave("",Space.CurrentScene() + "/YafaRay4tS/tSDisplay/Display",3);
WindowsManager.CloseWindow("Project/Windows Manager Space/R2F_PanelFrame")Edit2:
Was able to combine Yafaray View and Camera - Render Object into one.
Zoom 2 Object from Yafaray Camera view is not Zooming in like Yafaray View does
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
I have the new lights now so don't make any changes to lights.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
That is a shiny diffuse material, not a blend material.trueBlue wrote: 29 Jun 2018, 19:28 Great! Looks like some great changes!It was not ME!MaterialFnSet - check for invalid map nodes created when user adds a map then does not press the switch button to activate it![]()
Can you share the new updates to test?
Wanting to make a simple image Yafaray material. Picture on a Plane.
Here is a scene with a blend material with an image.
The image does not render.
YafaRay can't use bmp format image files. - will add to my todo list to check for unsupported file formats
Attached is the latest YafaRay4tS. Do not make any changes to it.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Great! Looks like some great changes!
Can you share the new updates to test?
Wanting to make a simple image Yafaray material. Picture on a Plane.
Here is a scene with a blend material with an image.
The image does not render.
Removed
It was not ME!MaterialFnSet - check for invalid map nodes created when user adds a map then does not press the switch button to activate it
Can you share the new updates to test?
Wanting to make a simple image Yafaray material. Picture on a Plane.
Here is a scene with a blend material with an image.
The image does not render.
Removed
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When a yafaray camera is used the corresponding values on the YafaRay4tS camera aspect are ignored by the exporter.trueBlue wrote: 29 Jun 2018, 17:35 Added a button to the YafaRay Camera that sets it as the camera in use in the YafaRay4tS panel.
Want to add a RMB command for the toolbar that opens the Camera aspect in the Stack too.
Questions about the YafaRay Camera/Camera Data:
Shouldn't the Set DOF Distance script be updating all of the Camera Data in the YafaRay4tS/Camera aspect?
Shouldn't the Camera Data's defaults be the same as the YafaRay4tS/Camera aspect?
The yafaray camera is newer, so the yafary4tS node will need to copy it's defaults, will add this one to my todo list.
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That is the desired behavior. So no worries.trueBlue wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 21:06 IDK if this is important to you or not but I just noticed that the Render buttons on the YafaRay4ts panel does not call the Render to File if Use Render to File Dialog is checked.
Edit: After using it more maybe it is good to have it separate, not sure.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
These are the changes so far:
Merged from my version of YafaRay4tS:
MaterialFnSet - blend material scene value was not set
RendertoFile tab - changed width and height which were coming from the render area instead of render size
Reset Defaults Button - changed to general reset code
defaults for input color space=sRGB, yaf gamma in=1.0
defaults from Render node -png file format, run minimized...
update opti display node - add line to clear status
added open temp folder button
ShowDisplayFnSet - partial save timer(PST) update and fix status display
CameraFnSet - if invalid camera try last camera added to scene before defaulting to view mode
New items:
Reset defaults - added Watchdog run
renamed "Draw Settings Parameter" heading to "More Settings"
LightsFnSet - export tS default infinite light
MaterialFnSet - check for invalid map nodes created when user adds a map then does not press the switch button to activate it
cleaned code - removed debugging System.Trace from various nodes
Todo:
verify light export power
add light attenuation control - light previews are not valid when lighting models depend on bounced light
make sample scene with a blend material - all other sample scenes are done
download new lights and set power values and brightness based on:
0.5*power^2 for point and spot lights,
just plain power for area,directional,ies and sun lights and
0.5*power^2/radius^2 for sphere light
check area light - may be upside down relative to the render
Edit: match YafaRay node camera defaults to yafaray camera defaults
Edit: check for unsupported file formats
stress test - try to break it and patch the holes
Merged from my version of YafaRay4tS:
MaterialFnSet - blend material scene value was not set
RendertoFile tab - changed width and height which were coming from the render area instead of render size
Reset Defaults Button - changed to general reset code
defaults for input color space=sRGB, yaf gamma in=1.0
defaults from Render node -png file format, run minimized...
update opti display node - add line to clear status
added open temp folder button
ShowDisplayFnSet - partial save timer(PST) update and fix status display
CameraFnSet - if invalid camera try last camera added to scene before defaulting to view mode
New items:
Reset defaults - added Watchdog run
renamed "Draw Settings Parameter" heading to "More Settings"
LightsFnSet - export tS default infinite light
MaterialFnSet - check for invalid map nodes created when user adds a map then does not press the switch button to activate it
cleaned code - removed debugging System.Trace from various nodes
Todo:
verify light export power
add light attenuation control - light previews are not valid when lighting models depend on bounced light
make sample scene with a blend material - all other sample scenes are done
download new lights and set power values and brightness based on:
0.5*power^2 for point and spot lights,
just plain power for area,directional,ies and sun lights and
0.5*power^2/radius^2 for sphere light
check area light - may be upside down relative to the render
Edit: match YafaRay node camera defaults to yafaray camera defaults
Edit: check for unsupported file formats
stress test - try to break it and patch the holes
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Added a button to the YafaRay Camera that sets it as the camera in use in the YafaRay4tS panel.
Want to add a RMB command for the toolbar that opens the Camera aspect in the Stack too.
Questions about the YafaRay Camera/Camera Data:
Shouldn't the Set DOF Distance script be updating all of the Camera Data in the YafaRay4tS/Camera aspect?
Shouldn't the Camera Data's defaults be the same as the YafaRay4tS/Camera aspect?
Want to add a RMB command for the toolbar that opens the Camera aspect in the Stack too.
Questions about the YafaRay Camera/Camera Data:
Shouldn't the Set DOF Distance script be updating all of the Camera Data in the YafaRay4tS/Camera aspect?
Shouldn't the Camera Data's defaults be the same as the YafaRay4tS/Camera aspect?
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
When using Render to File with the Area Render the Width and Height changes to what you would expect.
When you change to say Render Scene the Width and Height still has the Area Render's Width and Height, as shown.
The rendered scene is correct, it does render the Width and Height entered in the Output - Render File, and the Area Render is unchecked. This seems misleading. Anyway to set the Render to File's Width and Height to the Output - Render File's Width and Height, after using the Render Area?
If not maybe you could have Output - Render File's Width and Height and the Area Render's Width and Height with it's check box, in the Render to File?
When you change to say Render Scene the Width and Height still has the Area Render's Width and Height, as shown.
The rendered scene is correct, it does render the Width and Height entered in the Output - Render File, and the Area Render is unchecked. This seems misleading. Anyway to set the Render to File's Width and Height to the Output - Render File's Width and Height, after using the Render Area?
If not maybe you could have Output - Render File's Width and Height and the Area Render's Width and Height with it's check box, in the Render to File?
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IDK if this is important to you or not but I just noticed that the Render buttons on the YafaRay4ts panel does not call the Render to File if Use Render to File Dialog is checked.
Edit: After using it more maybe it is good to have it separate, not sure.
Edit: After using it more maybe it is good to have it separate, not sure.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Cool! That was a bit of work to have to do again. Changes:clintonman wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 16:30 In that case make the changes to your version of YafaRay4tS, upload and I'll figure out the differences.
Render to File
Added backgound color
Added Title name to it's Frame
Changed the button text to match Render icons.
---> Still To Do: Clear Rendering... from the Status Line?
Moved the Misc settings to Default
Deleted the Misc aspect
Default
Set the Tab order
Reset Default Settings button script
Added - Activity.Run("%THIS_NAME%" + "/Watch Dog Event");
---> Still To Do: Remove : Node.ConReset('%THIS_NAME%', "Yaf_Yaf_CustomViewer") ?
Removed due to update
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In that case make the changes to your version of YafaRay4tS, upload and I'll figure out the differences.trueBlue wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 17:10Has anything changed with the YafaRay4tS.RsObj since your last uploaded version?clintonman wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 16:30I'm ok with it.trueBlue wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 16:19 What do you think about eliminating the Misc aspect and moving those settings to the Default aspect?
The render pass button is the only thing in the render pass section that has anything to do with render passes.
custom string should be with the draw params checkbox
Attached is the latest YafaRay4tS, do changes on it and upload when done.
If so can the changes (Code copied and pasted) be applied to my modified YafaRay4tS.RsObj which is the above version?
What should the Draw Params settings title be called? IE: --Draw Parameters Settings--
You did not mention the other attributes so I am assuming it should be:
--Draw Parameters Settings--
Draw Params
Custom String
some stuff
Tile Order
Tile Size
Save Time Seconds
I have updated the YafaRay4tS Help
Updated the new panel images and icons
Very little changes to the text
Tried to upload it but getting the HTTP Error again.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Has anything changed with the YafaRay4tS.RsObj since your last uploaded version?clintonman wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 16:30I'm ok with it.trueBlue wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 16:19 What do you think about eliminating the Misc aspect and moving those settings to the Default aspect?
The render pass button is the only thing in the render pass section that has anything to do with render passes.
custom string should be with the draw params checkbox
Attached is the latest YafaRay4tS, do changes on it and upload when done.
If so can the changes (Code copied and pasted) be applied to my modified YafaRay4tS.RsObj which is the above version?
What should the Draw Params settings title be called? IE: --Draw Parameters Settings--
You did not mention the other attributes so I am assuming it should be:
--Draw Parameters Settings--
Draw Params
Custom String
some stuff
Tile Order
Tile Size
Save Time Seconds
I have updated the YafaRay4tS Help
Updated the new panel images and icons
Very little changes to the text
Tried to upload it but getting the HTTP Error again.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
I'm ok with it.trueBlue wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 16:19 What do you think about eliminating the Misc aspect and moving those settings to the Default aspect?
The render pass button is the only thing in the render pass section that has anything to do with render passes.
custom string should be with the draw params checkbox
Attached is the latest YafaRay4tS, do changes on it and upload when done.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
What do you think about eliminating the Misc aspect and moving those settings to the Default aspect?
I have saved a scene with this change.
Also added Activity.Run("%THIS_NAME%" + "/Watch Dog Event"); to the Reset Default Settings button.
I have saved a scene with this change.
Also added Activity.Run("%THIS_NAME%" + "/Watch Dog Event"); to the Reset Default Settings button.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Fixed a bug in the YafaRayScripts nodes
Fixed bug in the blend materials export
Added a blend material collection to the scene
Fixed bug in the blend materials export
Added a blend material collection to the scene
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
clintonman wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 06:35 Is there supposed to be an attachment here? I don't see it
Okay I uploaded both request. I performed the same steps as posted. I got error1 but this time Use OptDectector was not checked.clintonman wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 06:35 Re-upload your scene with the YafaRay4tS node included. That's where all the errors are coming from, but it's not in the file, so no way to tell.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Re-upload your scene with the YafaRay4tS node included. That's where all the errors are coming from, but it's not in the file, so no way to tell.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Here is a scene, hopefully you can figure our what's wrong.
I have the Blend Material set in the Material Editor.
I Switched and applied a texture.
Used the Area Render.
I get this error. I noticed that the Use OptDector Viewer gets checked somehow, can not figure out how so far.
I do not have iOptidetectors installed.
Not saying the above caused it.
After I uncheck it and render again, I get this error. I looked in the Misc - Restore All Defaults and there is this attribute that does not even exist.
Theses next two attributes are set to true (Checked) when you Reset them:
useOptDetector
useRenderToFile
I could not find where they are.
Edit:
I have Restored All Defaults and Saved the Settings.
I have Reset the Default Context
I am still stuck with the Error2, and can no longer render with YafaRay4tS.
I have the Blend Material set in the Material Editor.
I Switched and applied a texture.
Used the Area Render.
I get this error. I noticed that the Use OptDector Viewer gets checked somehow, can not figure out how so far.
I do not have iOptidetectors installed.
Not saying the above caused it.
After I uncheck it and render again, I get this error. I looked in the Misc - Restore All Defaults and there is this attribute that does not even exist.
Code: Select all
Yaf_Yaf_CustomViewer")Theses next two attributes are set to true (Checked) when you Reset them:
useOptDetector
useRenderToFile
I could not find where they are.
Edit:
I have Restored All Defaults and Saved the Settings.
I have Reset the Default Context
I am still stuck with the Error2, and can no longer render with YafaRay4tS.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Thought you already downloaded it?
Let me know when you do.
Thanks!
Let me know when you do.
Thanks!
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Is there supposed to be an attachment here? I don't see it.trueBlue wrote: 27 Jun 2018, 03:27 Here you go.
Changes:
Add Samples to Point and Infinite.
Note: Change Sample to 32, press Enter, put cursor in Power, and then Reset Samples. IDK?
Stopped tS light preferences from showing in the Stack or Aspects on all lights.
Changed Enable Shadows to Cast Shadows on all lights.
Added Cast Shadows to Sun on the front panel.
Added Red Edges, Opacity 0.200 to all light shape's Render Attributes except Area.
Added Red color to parts of Area light's geometry. Changed Size from 1 to 0.5
Changed IES Soft Shadows default from 32 to 16
All of the above changes to match Blender.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
When loading the lights from the toolbar they are coming from System/Preferences/Lights.
This is only for testing changes AFTER Saving/Reset.
You can have a window open in System/Preferences/Lights for making permeant changes.
You can have another window open in the scene for testing loading them from the toolbar.
I just recently discovered that the changes made to the default settings in the Yafaray Helper script were not being saved unless you follow the steps below. This seems to be the only thing that does not work, as I have made several changes to the lights without Saving/Reset. IDK?
1.) Save the Lights.RsObj to the preobjects folder
2.) Reset the Default Context.
In the YafaRay4tS layout, try out the lights from the toolbar.
3.) Make changes to the lights in System/Preferences/Lights
Word of caution, I edit the lights from the above path.
They are minimized just like the tS lights.
This makes them come in the Link Editor minimized.
They have been set to land on the grid just like the tS lights, so you should not change their Matrix and or ObjectMatrix.
4.) Save the Lights.RsObj to the preobjects folder
5.) Reset the Default Context.
Steps 4 and 5 are important before doing the next steps 6 and 7.
6.) When done with all changes, save them to the YafaRay Lights library FROM System/Preferences/Lights.
7.) You then need to Manually change the icons in the library.
This is only for testing changes AFTER Saving/Reset.
You can have a window open in System/Preferences/Lights for making permeant changes.
You can have another window open in the scene for testing loading them from the toolbar.
I just recently discovered that the changes made to the default settings in the Yafaray Helper script were not being saved unless you follow the steps below. This seems to be the only thing that does not work, as I have made several changes to the lights without Saving/Reset. IDK?
1.) Save the Lights.RsObj to the preobjects folder
2.) Reset the Default Context.
In the YafaRay4tS layout, try out the lights from the toolbar.
3.) Make changes to the lights in System/Preferences/Lights
Word of caution, I edit the lights from the above path.
They are minimized just like the tS lights.
This makes them come in the Link Editor minimized.
They have been set to land on the grid just like the tS lights, so you should not change their Matrix and or ObjectMatrix.
4.) Save the Lights.RsObj to the preobjects folder
5.) Reset the Default Context.
Steps 4 and 5 are important before doing the next steps 6 and 7.
6.) When done with all changes, save them to the YafaRay Lights library FROM System/Preferences/Lights.
7.) You then need to Manually change the icons in the library.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
trueBlue wrote: 25 Jun 2018, 22:03 ...
Here is all of the YafaRay lights from System/Preferences/Lights.RsObj
I only updated the above.
I did not update the YafaRay Sun light at all. Given the changes that I do not understand and that there is no shadows.
I have made the Lum Color Picker a tad larger, vertically in the Default aspect
Word of caution, I edit the lights from the above path.
They are minimized just like the tS lights.
This makes them come in the Link Editor minimized.
They have been set to land on the grid just like the tS lights, so you should not change their Matrix and or ObjectMatrix.
I save the Light.RsObj to the preobjects folder and Reset the Default Context.
I test any changes using the YafaRay4tS toolbar.
You should save them to the YafaRay Lights library from the above path.
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So edit steps are...
1. save Light.RsObj to preobjects folder
2. reset default context
3. load from the YafaRay4tS toolbar <- this doesn't make sense to me since the Matrix will change
4. make changes to a light
5. minimize the node in the link editor
6. save to /System/Preferences/Lights
repeat steps 3 to 6 until done
be careful not to change the Matrix or ObjectMatrix(OwnerMatrix?)
when finished save the /Preferences/Lights node and send it to you
For step 3 do I copy the node from the /System/Preferences/Lights instead of using the toolbar ?
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Here you go.
Changes:
Add Samples to Point and Infinite.
Note: Change Sample to 32, press Enter, put cursor in Power, and then Reset Samples. IDK?
Stopped tS light preferences from showing in the Stack or Aspects on all lights.
Changed Enable Shadows to Cast Shadows on all lights.
Added Cast Shadows to Sun on the front panel.
Added Red Edges, Opacity 0.200 to all light shape's Render Attributes except Area.
Added Red color to parts of Area light's geometry. Changed Size from 1 to 0.5
Changed IES Soft Shadows default from 32 to 16
All of the above changes to match Blender.
Removed due to update
Changes:
Add Samples to Point and Infinite.
Note: Change Sample to 32, press Enter, put cursor in Power, and then Reset Samples. IDK?
Stopped tS light preferences from showing in the Stack or Aspects on all lights.
Changed Enable Shadows to Cast Shadows on all lights.
Added Cast Shadows to Sun on the front panel.
Added Red Edges, Opacity 0.200 to all light shape's Render Attributes except Area.
Added Red color to parts of Area light's geometry. Changed Size from 1 to 0.5
Changed IES Soft Shadows default from 32 to 16
All of the above changes to match Blender.
Removed due to update
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
I haven't made any changes since the "Edit2" upload, so you can just continue and finish of what you are doing and upload again when you're finished. It may take some time to figure out the lights, maybe a d3d problem, not sure yet. Then if I make changes I'll upload and you finalize it all.trueBlue wrote: 26 Jun 2018, 23:45 ...
This is what I would like to do if you agree:
You need to post the Sun light first and or any other lights that you have changed, hopefully saved from the Lights.RsObj.
I would like to change the Render attributes for the shapes as shown previously. Red Edges.
I have already fixed the default reset problem for all of the lights as previously posted.
There is an issue with the Samples not updating in the Link Editor, but updates in the Stack.
There is nothing I can do about that.
Save the Lights.RsObj properly as previously posted.
Upload the changes.
You adjust the defaults in the Yafaray Helper and the Power settings for each light.
You upload the Lights.RsObj properly as previously posted.
I will then then save the lights from your Lights.RsObj to the YafaRay Lights library with the new icons.
I will then upload all of the above including the new toolbar.
Sound good?
I am shooting for July 4 2018 to release the FINAL Unofficial Update 4
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Understood.clintonman wrote: 26 Jun 2018, 22:23 When you make edits to old posts I only see the changes by accident. I was looking back through old posts and stumbled across "Edit3".
If you make a change you should make a new post.
That post was edited all within 20 minutes. Figured that if you did not reply it was all good.
I would like to finish the YafaRay lights for you if that is what you want.
Per your post you mentioned that you need to adjust the Power settings, so I was trying to finalize the lights for you.
I have made the changes to the Sun light per your last update.
I am at a lost with regards to the Shadow which I posted about previously.
This is what I would like to do if you agree:
You need to post the Sun light first and or any other lights that you have changed, hopefully saved from the Lights.RsObj.
I would like to change the Render attributes for the shapes as shown previously. Red Edges.
I have already fixed the default reset problem for all of the lights as previously posted.
There is an issue with the Samples not updating in the Link Editor, but updates in the Stack.
There is nothing I can do about that.
Save the Lights.RsObj properly as previously posted.
Upload the changes.
You adjust the defaults in the Yafaray Helper and the Power settings for each light.
You upload the Lights.RsObj properly as previously posted.
I will then then save the lights from your Lights.RsObj to the YafaRay Lights library with the new icons.
I will then upload all of the above including the new toolbar.
Sound good?
I am shooting for July 4 2018 to release the FINAL Unofficial Update 4
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
When you make edits to old posts I only see the changes by accident. I was looking back through old posts and stumbled across "Edit3".trueBlue wrote: 25 Jun 2018, 22:03 Edit: I will upload the lights with their defaults fixed, as soon as I am done.
Fixed the defaults and added Activity.Run(System.ThisOwner() + "/UpdateFromRGB"); to Bitmap2
End Edit
Wonder why that happened, I basically created the Yafaray Helper from scratch and exported everything.
Edit2: Just tested the changes and they did not work! Saved the Lights.RsObj to the preobjects folder and Reset the Default Context. Now they worked. Updated the below to reflect this observation
Edit3: Just discovered the Spot lights did not have a required camera object in order for the View from light to work. Fixed and reuploaded.
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If you make a change you should make a new post.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
No, yaf does not see those.trueBlue wrote: 26 Jun 2018, 06:52 Does YafaRay recognize these attributes?
If not we should at least not show them and remove the aspects.
Attenuation.PNG
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I don't understand.trueBlue wrote: 26 Jun 2018, 06:52 ...
For the YafaRay Sphere adjust the size to Lat/Long = 20x20 and the Render attributes.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
Does YafaRay recognize these attributes?
If not we should at least not show them and remove the aspects. For the YafaRay Sphere adjust the size to Lat/Long = 20x20 and the Render attributes. Could also do this for the other light shapes to differentiate from tS lights. Also did a make over on the light icons. Also I still have these uncompiled help files if that would help. I did a trial run with the HTML Help Workshop by making pictures of the new YafaRay4tS, Lights, and Light icons panels. Added them to the project's Images folder and edited the htm files for the new widths and heights. Compiled it. Still works in Win10.
If not we should at least not show them and remove the aspects. For the YafaRay Sphere adjust the size to Lat/Long = 20x20 and the Render attributes. Could also do this for the other light shapes to differentiate from tS lights. Also did a make over on the light icons. Also I still have these uncompiled help files if that would help. I did a trial run with the HTML Help Workshop by making pictures of the new YafaRay4tS, Lights, and Light icons panels. Added them to the project's Images folder and edited the htm files for the new widths and heights. Compiled it. Still works in Win10.
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
The thing I do not like about the one on the Left is it is distracting when choosing a color.
It also seems out of place being in between the Luminance and RGB.
The reason for two scrubbers is to make it easier to get back to No Intensity = 1.000.
The present way it is with one scrubber is 0.000 - 20.000 and you have right click Reset to get No Intensity.
Not very fluid nor obvious.
Narrowed it down to two Intensity scrubbers, the one the left is set at 1.000 - 20.000 (No Intensity - Higher) and the one on the right is set at 0.000 - 1.000 (No Intensity - Lower).
I kind of like the new one on the Right. BTW... I think you misunderstood me about the update for the Lum values.
The Lum in the tS Color is 0 - 240 verses 0.000 - 1.000
I was wonder if you could have match the tS Color.
No biggie what you have done is outstanding!
It also seems out of place being in between the Luminance and RGB.
The reason for two scrubbers is to make it easier to get back to No Intensity = 1.000.
The present way it is with one scrubber is 0.000 - 20.000 and you have right click Reset to get No Intensity.
Not very fluid nor obvious.
Narrowed it down to two Intensity scrubbers, the one the left is set at 1.000 - 20.000 (No Intensity - Higher) and the one on the right is set at 0.000 - 1.000 (No Intensity - Lower).
I kind of like the new one on the Right. BTW... I think you misunderstood me about the update for the Lum values.
The Lum in the tS Color is 0 - 240 verses 0.000 - 1.000
I was wonder if you could have match the tS Color.
No biggie what you have done is outstanding!
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Re: Yafaray4tS v0.9.0
"Intensity at Top" makes the most sense to me.trueBlue wrote: 25 Jun 2018, 22:03 ...
Also included is a scene with tS Spot lights with your color picker. I would appreciate it if you could take a peak at it with regards to the Color aspect. Trying to incorporate Intensity. Ugh, I can not come up with anything that looks good. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. The one on the far right is a YafaRay light used for No Intensity.
tS Spot lights.PNG
"Intensity at Bottom" and "Intensity at Side w Scubbers2" separates the enter button from the red green blue values it uses.
"Intensity at Top w Scubbers" and "Intensity at Side w Scubbers" have 3 scrubber controls for 1 thing
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Edit: I will upload the lights with their defaults fixed, as soon as I am done.
Fixed the defaults and added Activity.Run(System.ThisOwner() + "/UpdateFromRGB"); to Bitmap2
End Edit
Wonder why that happened, I basically created the Yafaray Helper from scratch and exported everything.
Edit2: Just tested the changes and they did not work! Saved the Lights.RsObj to the preobjects folder and Reset the Default Context. Now they worked. Updated the below to reflect this observation
Edit3: Just discovered the Spot lights did not have a required camera object in order for the View from light to work. Fixed and reuploaded.
Here is all of the YafaRay lights from System/Preferences/Lights.RsObj
I only updated the above.
I did not update the YafaRay Sun light at all. Given the changes that I do not understand and that there is no shadows.
I have made the Lum Color Picker a tad larger, vertically in the Default aspect
Word of caution, I edit the lights from the above path.
They are minimized just like the tS lights.
This makes them come in the Link Editor minimized.
They have been set to land on the grid just like the tS lights, so you should not change their Matrix and or ObjectMatrix.
I save the Light.RsObj to the preobjects folder and Reset the Default Context.
I test any changes using the YafaRay4tS toolbar.
You should save them to the YafaRay Lights library from the above path.
Also included is a scene with tS Spot lights with your color picker. I would appreciate it if you could take a peak at it with regards to the Color aspect. Trying to incorporate Intensity. Ugh, I can not come up with anything that looks good. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. The one on the far right is a YafaRay light used for No Intensity.
Fixed the defaults and added Activity.Run(System.ThisOwner() + "/UpdateFromRGB"); to Bitmap2
End Edit
Wonder why that happened, I basically created the Yafaray Helper from scratch and exported everything.
Edit2: Just tested the changes and they did not work! Saved the Lights.RsObj to the preobjects folder and Reset the Default Context. Now they worked. Updated the below to reflect this observation
Edit3: Just discovered the Spot lights did not have a required camera object in order for the View from light to work. Fixed and reuploaded.
Here is all of the YafaRay lights from System/Preferences/Lights.RsObj
I only updated the above.
I did not update the YafaRay Sun light at all. Given the changes that I do not understand and that there is no shadows.
I have made the Lum Color Picker a tad larger, vertically in the Default aspect
Word of caution, I edit the lights from the above path.
They are minimized just like the tS lights.
This makes them come in the Link Editor minimized.
They have been set to land on the grid just like the tS lights, so you should not change their Matrix and or ObjectMatrix.
I save the Light.RsObj to the preobjects folder and Reset the Default Context.
I test any changes using the YafaRay4tS toolbar.
You should save them to the YafaRay Lights library from the above path.
Also included is a scene with tS Spot lights with your color picker. I would appreciate it if you could take a peak at it with regards to the Color aspect. Trying to incorporate Intensity. Ugh, I can not come up with anything that looks good. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. The one on the far right is a YafaRay light used for No Intensity.

























