Just to say, the cage tool widget -
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Draise
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Just to say, the cage tool widget -
Is the bomb in Truespace. Why don't other softwares have this?!
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Dragneye
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Re: Just to say, the cage tool widget -
Another example ... even today (for us old timers here), of how innovative TS was, and why its one of those programs that ya just keep dear to yer heart, and no matter how far you've moved on, ya just gotta keep lookin' at the ole friend.
Yuuuup... Thanks Roman & crew... Dec 4th 2015.
Yuuuup... Thanks Roman & crew... Dec 4th 2015.
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Re: Just to say, the cage tool widget -
^5, fellow cage fanatic.
So much better than the 7.x style.
So much better than the 7.x style.
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RAYMAN
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Re: Just to say, the cage tool widget -
I can only repeat it again and again and again...... TS isnt dead if we have a.) exporters for STANDALONE apps that you can use.... that can write or read other formats
b) if we have bug fixes if IOS´s have compatability problems with TS in the future !(patches)
The REASON why I Keep pointing to programs like VUE or THEA is because those are STANDANLONE apps ! BLENDER is also a STANDALONE app !
We do not need to have TS rebuilt .. that takles ages.. and even when finished would need constant funding to keep on going......!
A simple file exporter to ie VUE and from and to Blender or Thea would open to a world of almost unlimited poly count due to extensive and marketwide
highest and most effective use of INSTANCING.. !Landscapes of millions of polys IS a Problem inside TS !!! That will NEVER change ! But TS is good at so many other things that exporting the final scene setup that can handle the load IS the only way to get TS into the future.....! Why I didnt mention BRYCE ? because development is slow and poly count isnt near....! Other apps are either to expensive or not standalone or need a much higher level of integration...that DOES NOT exclude them..
that only makes it harder to integrate TS !!! I was one of the few that was AGAINST the Integration of YAFARAY into TS at that time when Jack started the
exporter because I knew it was a dead end and after a few months and changes of Yafaray would Need constant updating....! If we had an exporter for Kerkythea (THEA) or Vue we would still have options for TS export that would open a world of pretty unlimited possibilities......ie instancing.......and GPU Rendering without the need for integrating an exporter..... !
(sorry for the capital letters ist not shouting ist putting emphasis on the major reasons )
I´m not affiliated with any of These program nor am a fan of any of the programs ! If other options come along... well super I will be more the happy to include them into the list !!!!!!!!
b) if we have bug fixes if IOS´s have compatability problems with TS in the future !(patches)
The REASON why I Keep pointing to programs like VUE or THEA is because those are STANDANLONE apps ! BLENDER is also a STANDALONE app !
We do not need to have TS rebuilt .. that takles ages.. and even when finished would need constant funding to keep on going......!
A simple file exporter to ie VUE and from and to Blender or Thea would open to a world of almost unlimited poly count due to extensive and marketwide
highest and most effective use of INSTANCING.. !Landscapes of millions of polys IS a Problem inside TS !!! That will NEVER change ! But TS is good at so many other things that exporting the final scene setup that can handle the load IS the only way to get TS into the future.....! Why I didnt mention BRYCE ? because development is slow and poly count isnt near....! Other apps are either to expensive or not standalone or need a much higher level of integration...that DOES NOT exclude them..
that only makes it harder to integrate TS !!! I was one of the few that was AGAINST the Integration of YAFARAY into TS at that time when Jack started the
exporter because I knew it was a dead end and after a few months and changes of Yafaray would Need constant updating....! If we had an exporter for Kerkythea (THEA) or Vue we would still have options for TS export that would open a world of pretty unlimited possibilities......ie instancing.......and GPU Rendering without the need for integrating an exporter..... !
(sorry for the capital letters ist not shouting ist putting emphasis on the major reasons )
I´m not affiliated with any of These program nor am a fan of any of the programs ! If other options come along... well super I will be more the happy to include them into the list !!!!!!!!
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stan
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Re: Just to say, the cage tool widget -
Yes, the selectionbox widget in the 6.6 side is great, unfortunately the cage in the 7.61 side is an unfinished item. It works but lacking in the rotation methods possible in the old one. Sadly it's not easy to figure out all that is possible in the sdk to make a better one.
As for Rayman's rant like post, what's the point? The folks who come here already know the options out there. Blender sucks in my opinion, but I realize some folks put up with it, I guess because it's free. People come here because they enjoy trueSpace, it's still part of their tool set, or they would have moved on.
This thread is about the cage widget. Why other apps don't have one is their lost..
As for Rayman's rant like post, what's the point? The folks who come here already know the options out there. Blender sucks in my opinion, but I realize some folks put up with it, I guess because it's free. People come here because they enjoy trueSpace, it's still part of their tool set, or they would have moved on.
This thread is about the cage widget. Why other apps don't have one is their lost..
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RAYMAN
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Re: Just to say, the cage tool widget -
No not a rant...the thread is also about still using Ts as it was.. and as it was before Ts 7...its all about Ts not being obsolete....it still works and so does the cage widget.unless you stop using Ts altogether......stan wrote:Yes, the selectionbox widget in the 6.6 side is great, unfortunately the cage in the 7.61 side is an unfinished item. It works but lacking in the rotation methods possible in the old one. Sadly it's not easy to figure out all that is possible in the sdk to make a better one.
As for Rayman's rant like post, what's the point? The folks who come here already know the options out there. Blender sucks in my opinion, but I realize some folks put up with it, I guess because it's free. People come here because they enjoy trueSpace, it's still part of their tool set, or they would have moved on.
This thread is about the cage widget. Why other apps don't have one is their lost..
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Draise
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Re: Just to say, the cage tool widget -
I also was refering to the awesome box widget on the WS with the unofficial updates. That too is the bomb. Perfect. I prefer it actually, but that is personal preference.
Would be awesome to have the cage widget on polygon selections too.
Would be awesome to have the cage widget on polygon selections too.
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RAYMAN
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Re: Just to say, the cage tool widget -
Here is to clarify what I meant (Stan PM´d me and I understood that it could have been misunderstood) by my initial respond... its about how TS´s widget can be used ...... even in the future where the limits of TS show ie limited poly count and limited render option.......
You can use the widget pretty well by quickly altering the basic shapes and making verity... if you do a lot of instancing.......ie here the shape of the grass.... !
But that can only be of use if you can extend the life of TS.....patches... and new options........otherwise TS will end in everybodies shelf !
I posted a question on how to collect objects for export.. in the other thread because that could extend TS´s lifespan..!
No more TS in the future.. no more widget..... comprende
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You can use the widget pretty well by quickly altering the basic shapes and making verity... if you do a lot of instancing.......ie here the shape of the grass.... !
But that can only be of use if you can extend the life of TS.....patches... and new options........otherwise TS will end in everybodies shelf !
I posted a question on how to collect objects for export.. in the other thread because that could extend TS´s lifespan..!
No more TS in the future.. no more widget..... comprende

