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Ok where have we left off with this? As I recall trueBlue had a good handle on it.

Now where were we?

1) we no longer have to be cones! We have avatars that are realistic and we can make our own or use non realistic ones as we each see fit.

2) we can (and do now) have panels with icons we can right-click or left-click which respectively control realtime facial morphing and hair morphing, etc. The next incarnation of that principle should be somewhat like typical MMO world Avatar "Emote" menus with icons controlling avatar gestures and interactivity, such as swimming, stair walking and descending, climbing ladders up or down, handshakes, waving hello, etc.

3) we can and should develop all these commonly needed morphs and bvh animations for a new menu system.

4) we have savable avatar clothing preferences and related customizeable inventory.


there is more but I will stop there for a coffee

Ok nice!
At trueblue's place?
I've been out of the loop on the progress. Excellent!

froo wrote:Ok nice!
At trueblue's place?
I've been out of the loop on the progress. Excellent!

Yep!

trueBlue and I played with some of that a few days ago together, fun stuff and very promising!

Ok here goes...

I am going to add a bunch of avatar development related videos and links here in this thread to keep the subject matter on topic

feel free to add more here folks, i just hope i can figure out how to embed them in a post here, if not you will see the links below instead.

these are all related in one way or another to our current development of fully articulated and animated morphable realistic human avatars in OurSpaces.

TrueSpace Avatar Related Videos:

GENERAL NOTE:

this is a hodge-podge collection of various videos all of which have to do with trueSpace rigging or humanoid animation / avatars. Whatever you can animate with a humanoid model you can turn into a selectable menu item and apply in shared space to an avatar.

As noted in some of these videos, a properly rigged skeleton with bone names designed to accept specific BVH MoCap Source files allows you to place that skeleton in any similar imported model or model you design in trueSpace, connect the skeleton to your new model, and add perfect motions fast and easy from there on to it.

Poser4, which is a very old version of Poser, can be had used on Ebay for about $30.00, and that is an IDEAL tool for everyone to have who plans on adding their own BVH animation sequences to their avatars in shared space, because Poser4 exports BVH motions which are compatible with trueSpace7.6x. I have it, and recommend you all get it. I can create with
it any kind of animation sequence for easy trueSpace import and application as a BVH file, dogs, robots, horses, insects, birds, lions, cats, people, dolphins, facial expressions, laughter, walk cycles, ANYTHING.

Without a BVH generating software like Poser though, you can still download tens of thousands of free BVH files from the web which can be applied to your **properly rigged** character avatars in trueSpace7.6x.

Also, Daz Studio is free and creates animated and morphed humanoid models.

As a community our next step is getting the panel systems as easy to work with as possible, so you can add your own BVH motions and a related icon depicting each, so you can select them and apply them instantly to your avatar in shared space as desired.

I recommend you each get a video download program (like the free one I use Tubemaster++ at http://www.tubemaster.net/" ) to download each of these videos for offline study... you never know when a video you need again may vanish from YouTube.

- END OF GENERAL NOTE

Videos begin in next post:

truespace 7.0 7.5 6 rigged characters animated

NOTE: GET THESE PRE-RIGGED BVH-READY FREE CHARACTERS NOW AT THE CALIGARI FORUM BEFORe THE

FORUM CLOSES here is the download link:

http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/a ... 1207286923" and

the thread link: http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/s ... php?t=5241"

These bvh-ready characters each have skeletons you can apply to your own models or imported

models for the creation of your own BVH-Ready shared space Avatars.


rigging a Quidam .obj model in Truespace

(three part video, this is part one and parts two and three follow automatically when viewed at youtube)

NOTES: This video tutorial only uses Quidam at the start, 90 percent of the video has nothing to do with Quidam, 90 percent has to do with how to rig any imported OBJ model humanoid or bi-ped robot or creature for avatar animatiuon in trueSpace and hence trueServe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOqKV4m4hqc"

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avatars truespace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hle20fIoILs"

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avatars overview truespace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxRcJf2HWR0"

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Truespace 7.6 Animation from Poser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yklOm3c2JEE"

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Chester Rocks!, TrueSpace TrueBones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXxcjWlAcsk"

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TrueSpace Free Tutorial BasicCharacterAnimation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGuslWpk ... re=related"

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TrueSpace Free Tutorial FKFineTune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izw1PZEi3RI"

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TrueSpace Free Tutorial FK Fine Tune 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8--DHdg1 ... re=related"

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TrueSpace Free Tutorial AttachSkinToBone

(useful for avatar clothing and handheld objects)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX0_i8JP ... re=related"

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Mr. Bones BVH Preset Animation Demonstration in trueSpace 7.6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ahN_J8GojM"

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A LOOK BEHIND TRUESPACE !

Note: Halfway through this movie you will see a BVH animated Binky doing some great dance moves, these could be (although it doesnt specifically show how in this video, but we know how) attached to a panel for people to select online for use with their avatars in realtime shared space.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uf25PkpEo0"

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Truespace 7.5 IK rigged skeleton for bvh clips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf-q6Ld9z5U"

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posing b91 truespace avatar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvkbINbbPsQ"

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Truespace 7.6 Daz Studio Animate test animaton Jan 30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRzPzxQqXJo"

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Truespace 7.6 3D Animation and Physics Sept 13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asaB-jGl6Tc"

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avatar customization truespace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VuNW6dhgSY"

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facial morphs truespace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR1uGuBeni4"


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The Last Tomorrow by Breech Block

(excellent video composition, which among many things gives us a glimpse into what multiuser realistic avatar environments could be like in our own shared spaces now.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5AAQbbu6TE"

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avatar navigation truespace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAPhqQMaBDw"

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avatar presets truespace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsiCuxtA ... re=related"

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That's it for starters... feel free to add any others you feel belong here in our Avatar Development Status Thread, and thanks!

One question...
Why we can't do it on OurSpace?

leonregis wrote:One question...
Why we can't do it on OurSpace?

everything you see characters doing in the videos here we CAN do in trueServe/OurSpaces, we just have to create the animations we want and attach them to menus for instant use there when we want to use them.

TrueBlue and I were dabbling with avatars on his server one day, and as soon as I get a few things settled here in my real life I will get back to that as my top priority here.

Many of the avatar systems which were in place before MS bought out Caligari still have remnants which work partially in trueSpace, truePlay, and trueServe. We are just determining now what can be done with what we have to work with in that regard. One thing is certain though, we don't have to settle for the old Caligari Cone Avatars if we don't want to, we can use realistic ones provided by Caligari or we can create our own as we each see fit.

It just takes time, and we are on it now.

NPs 3DVD, this is just amazing... Thank you for your and trueBlue efforts!
I also have to settle some thing in my real life to do Booxie's tutorial and finally set up my own server... I just need time, energy and will!

Cya

leonregis wrote:NPs 3DVD, this is just amazing... Thank you for your and trueBlue efforts!
I also have to settle some thing in my real life to do Booxie's tutorial and finally set up my own server... I just need time, energy and will!

Cya

Actually trueBlue is the one who has made progress so far with what's left of the official avatar systems, but I do intend to help him a lot very soon here, the more of us working on all that the better for us all.

Yeah we are all looking forward to seeing you have the first OurSpace in South America!

What is the secret in enabling the Avatar toolbar and stuff? Actually this looks close to what was available so not sure if anything is lacking. I always thought content was what was lacking with Avatars before the plug was pulled on it.