Challenge-Farming-September/October 2016 - CLOSED
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Challenge-Farming-September/October 2016 - CLOSED
U3DA Graphic Arts Challenge - Farming
IMPORTANT: This challenge is closed. It has been restarted here with different procedures to enter and regarding when the poll starts. The restart is to experiment with ways to solve the issues discussed below.
Theme: Anything associated with farming. A whole farm, farmers, animals, tools, tractors, crops, ...
Rules:
1) You can use any software.
2) You may create as many entries as you like but each must be a separate project.
3) The main object(s), must be new models that you make. Otherwise, you can use models/resources you made in the past and things generated by programs*.
4) Post your entries in this thread. For each entry include:
-- A name for the entry.
-- One or two finished images or one animation.
-- One wire frame. (Optional)
-- One WIP thread link. (Optional)
*Daz, Make Human, Vue, Bryce, Plant Factory, Plant Studio, XFrog, Ivy Generator, World Machine, Terragen , and such.
Dates and Deadlines:
The challenge begins now – September 20, 2016 and ends on October 18, 2016 at midnight in your location.
The poll will start on October 19 and continue through October 21.
Organization:
Main Contest Thread, this thread, is reserved for the theme, rules and the posting of entries by contestants.
Comments Thread. Discuss the challenge in the comments thread. link
Poll Thread. A poll will appear on the day specified above. The winner will be determined by the votes in the poll. The winner will run the next challenge.
IMPORTANT: This challenge is closed. It has been restarted here with different procedures to enter and regarding when the poll starts. The restart is to experiment with ways to solve the issues discussed below.
Theme: Anything associated with farming. A whole farm, farmers, animals, tools, tractors, crops, ...
Rules:
1) You can use any software.
2) You may create as many entries as you like but each must be a separate project.
3) The main object(s), must be new models that you make. Otherwise, you can use models/resources you made in the past and things generated by programs*.
4) Post your entries in this thread. For each entry include:
-- A name for the entry.
-- One or two finished images or one animation.
-- One wire frame. (Optional)
-- One WIP thread link. (Optional)
*Daz, Make Human, Vue, Bryce, Plant Factory, Plant Studio, XFrog, Ivy Generator, World Machine, Terragen , and such.
Dates and Deadlines:
The challenge begins now – September 20, 2016 and ends on October 18, 2016 at midnight in your location.
The poll will start on October 19 and continue through October 21.
Organization:
Main Contest Thread, this thread, is reserved for the theme, rules and the posting of entries by contestants.
Comments Thread. Discuss the challenge in the comments thread. link
Poll Thread. A poll will appear on the day specified above. The winner will be determined by the votes in the poll. The winner will run the next challenge.
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
Since there were no entries the first person to post here that he wants to run the next challenge takes over as if he was the winner of this one.
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
I have an idea, but have't had it started yet. I suck at these challenges!
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
So who wants to run the next challenge? With no entries in the Framing challenge there can be no winner to run the next one. Instead, the first person to post here that you want it becomes Challenge Super Being for the next one.
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
I have an idea for the challenges.......wouldnt it be better to not have a fixed deadline but..... as soon as a a contest reaches 6-8 entries.. whenever that is it goes up for voting.... ????? I think the no entries and one or two entries thing doesnt make it challenging enough anymore... just my 2 Cents... ??????
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
I actually like that idea.. because I start projects for them, conceptualize them, get the pipeline all thought up and ready to do - then I have to complete real world deadlines before the project for the contest.. then WHAM, the contest is over... they appear more like work deadlines than pleasure! Because some of the ideas I could not even compete in were great and I just wish I could do them in the lull times between real-life projects..
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
I like the idea. 
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
Low activity in the forum is the main problem. Few people are here to do independent projects or challenges or anything else. Participation has been declining for long time and the recent trouble didn't help. Anyway, Rayman's idea may work better than the old way now that low participation is normal.
Possible problems with the proposed method: Challenges could drag on for too long without enough entries. Especially if the topic is unpopular. If the quota to end a challenge is, for example, six entries then only the six fastest contestants (much free time, less ambitious entries, good speed modelers) could be in the poll and others would be cut off. Fewer than six, even just one, if some quickly made more than one entry. That would make all challenges a race just to get into the poll so speed modelers/simple projects would always dominate. It would discourage ambitious projects and frustrate those who were excluded for working slowly. The unpredictable "deadline" would be more frustrating than a known one.
Maybe having contestants declare that they are entering a challenge? A challenge would end when all declared contestants have finished their entries. Contestants would be expected to voluntarily drop out or simplify their entries if they are not able to finish in a reasonable time. Problems: Challenges could go on forever with new contestants "declaring". There could still be challenges with few entries but no one would be cut off by deadlines.
Combine Rayman's idea and declared contestants? A challenge would end when at least the required number of entries were present and all declared contestants have finished their entries. If there aren't enough and no new contestants appear then the CSB would declare the challenge over and start the poll.
The Challenge Super Being, winner, can make his own rules not just the theme. Someone say you want to run the next challenge, take over, and make the rules.
Possible problems with the proposed method: Challenges could drag on for too long without enough entries. Especially if the topic is unpopular. If the quota to end a challenge is, for example, six entries then only the six fastest contestants (much free time, less ambitious entries, good speed modelers) could be in the poll and others would be cut off. Fewer than six, even just one, if some quickly made more than one entry. That would make all challenges a race just to get into the poll so speed modelers/simple projects would always dominate. It would discourage ambitious projects and frustrate those who were excluded for working slowly. The unpredictable "deadline" would be more frustrating than a known one.
Maybe having contestants declare that they are entering a challenge? A challenge would end when all declared contestants have finished their entries. Contestants would be expected to voluntarily drop out or simplify their entries if they are not able to finish in a reasonable time. Problems: Challenges could go on forever with new contestants "declaring". There could still be challenges with few entries but no one would be cut off by deadlines.
Combine Rayman's idea and declared contestants? A challenge would end when at least the required number of entries were present and all declared contestants have finished their entries. If there aren't enough and no new contestants appear then the CSB would declare the challenge over and start the poll.
The Challenge Super Being, winner, can make his own rules not just the theme. Someone say you want to run the next challenge, take over, and make the rules.
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
well actually we are busy in 3d.....just earning money with
it and most of the time cant post because its clients property....Im working on a character that is actually a doll....a bear thats dressed up as Mozart and is a mascot
of a resturant chain....! Rigged in Blender and snimated and rendered in Vue Inf.!
Apart from that Im building a Car..which is partly my own project based on a Fiero Gt...!
I also design modding parts for RR cars...and no longer available spares for oldtimers...many of these layed in Carbon... so not slow at all!
For the contest..well very simple...when we would get to 6 we
fix the deadline ie after a weeks time...
If we dont get entries after 8 weeks we could then go to a new topic.....well that a suggestion.....any ideas????
it and most of the time cant post because its clients property....Im working on a character that is actually a doll....a bear thats dressed up as Mozart and is a mascot
of a resturant chain....! Rigged in Blender and snimated and rendered in Vue Inf.!
Apart from that Im building a Car..which is partly my own project based on a Fiero Gt...!
I also design modding parts for RR cars...and no longer available spares for oldtimers...many of these layed in Carbon... so not slow at all!
For the contest..well very simple...when we would get to 6 we
fix the deadline ie after a weeks time...
If we dont get entries after 8 weeks we could then go to a new topic.....well that a suggestion.....any ideas????
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
As someone who hasn't entered challenges since the caligari days. I'm just wondering would it not be easier to make it a quarterly thing with no concept except that it be done in a 3d software of your choosing. Then if a person was not finished on time they could enter it in the next quarter. There might be more entries that way.
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
The best system so far is really the original one IMO. Unfortunately with few active forum members there aren't enough who have time to make entries before the set deadlines and it limits big projects and people with little time.
@Stan That sounds like a simple and effective method. It sacrifices challenge traditions including winner makes the rules and winner sets the theme. While those can certainly be changed or removed they have benefits.
Since no one is interested in taking over the next challenge I'll extend this one with a restart to try out some new rules. The theme will be the same so continue or begin entries about farming. The rules will be adapted to the "declared entrants" method possibly a hybrid with some version of Rayman's idea. There will be a new rules thread for the restart plus a Register thread where contestants should declare that they are entering the challenge. Same comments thread.
@Stan That sounds like a simple and effective method. It sacrifices challenge traditions including winner makes the rules and winner sets the theme. While those can certainly be changed or removed they have benefits.
Since no one is interested in taking over the next challenge I'll extend this one with a restart to try out some new rules. The theme will be the same so continue or begin entries about farming. The rules will be adapted to the "declared entrants" method possibly a hybrid with some version of Rayman's idea. There will be a new rules thread for the restart plus a Register thread where contestants should declare that they are entering the challenge. Same comments thread.
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
Please extend this one! I want to make something with the theme.
@Stan, awesome idea. A quaterly competition is great, that would be like every season, 3 months? Some kinda of "deadline" that is half dead like a zombie is pleasant.
I'm not sure the themes should be removed though. They are fun in a way - and if it didn't have a theme they wouldn't really.. be much to competing private WIP's against each other, lol.
@Stan, awesome idea. A quaterly competition is great, that would be like every season, 3 months? Some kinda of "deadline" that is half dead like a zombie is pleasant.
I'm not sure the themes should be removed though. They are fun in a way - and if it didn't have a theme they wouldn't really.. be much to competing private WIP's against each other, lol.
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Re: Challenge - Farming - September/October 2016
to be honest im happy with everything that takes away the stress...I have enough stress in business life with dedlines every day...and that includes the payment deadlines too! So everything is good for me if it makes it
good for all of us..... my ideas were just food for thought....!:)
A 3 months cycle would also be pretty well managable....
So..Im happy with whatever will in the end work out well!
good for all of us..... my ideas were just food for thought....!:)
A 3 months cycle would also be pretty well managable....
So..Im happy with whatever will in the end work out well!