weevil wrote:Don't get me wrong there, I was not singling you out of a crowd, ...
I never thought so but I guess my point was not understood. I was simply using myself as an example to refute the notion that a person is lazy because they can't converse in multiple languages. It may have nothing to do with laziness. It may simply be a lack of aptitude as is my case.
weevil wrote:... Self learning agreed is in no understated terms "Bloody difficult", ...
Who said anything about self-learning? Every time that I studied a language, it was with professional instruction. My teachers were as exasperated as me at my poor progress. I studied my first langauge as a little kid in Elementary School. My next language in High School. My last two languages in College. My teachers were very gifted---but I wasn't.
weevil wrote:... Being so strict about one particular language I doubt would be the way forwards ...
"Strict", huh? Because we want to understand each other we're "tight, tense, exact, severe, rigorous, and not loose or vague" (Webster's definition of "strict")? First, we're lazy if we don't make an effort to learn another language. Now we're "strict" if we want to use a common language?
Quite the contrary: In my experience, this is one of the most helpful and lenient forums around. I doubt that any of us "lazy native English speakers" (your words!) care what language we use as long as we can understand each other. After all, what's the point of trying to communicate if you don't try to be understood. It's the Tower of Babel all over again.
And as for online translators, you've got to be kidding!!! Have you actually used them? I have and they are inept at best---especially when it comes to technical communication and colloquialisms. They have their place but I would never suggest them unless there was no other choice.
In summary, it is not lazy to want to understand one another and that requires some form of common language. Nor are we being strict to ask people to kindly attempt to be understood when they have something to ask or say. Nor does it mean that we think one language or culture is better than another. It has nothing to do with it. It is purely a desire to communicate.
Finally, maybe I'm old fashioned, but the first thing I was taught regarding good communcation is to not insult the people with whom I want to communicate.
Best regards, First Light