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So I use a model layout with a small perspective view (not camera) where I compose my shots. A student inadvertently closed the small window the other day so I opened another. However, when I load a scene up now, it no longer has the original viewpoint. For some shots I need it exactly as it was so I can rerrender scenes to superimpose elements.

Any idea what has happened here and, more importantly, how to get it back?
It seems to load up a default perspective view each time.

Any help here GREATLY appreciated. No way I can finish my book now without re-composing and rendering each shot...

EDIT: I have Auto Load off but Save State checked if that helps.

When you close TS, the setting of the perspective view is saved but if you close this windows, you lose the setting. i think it is not possible to get it back. To avoid this problem, the best way is to create a cam and use a cam view for your render. Remember there is a plugins in modelside to create a cam from the perspective view when you want to save the setting of the perspective view. But it is too late for your problem. I would like to be wrong.

Horrible feeling you are right there Marcel. But just before the problem I saved all the scenes to a memory stick and when I opened them on another PC where they are composed correctly. I just tried loading from the memory stick into my laptop (where I have the problem) and again the default perspective view comes up.

I really hope we are both wrong or this will set me back weeks......

Thanks all the same for your help.

May be try to find your last perspective view manually: create a cam view with wareframe, same size of your old image and use the image as background. Superimpose the wireframe scene with the background. It would not be difficult if you have not changed the default zoom with your last perspective view.

Good idea but I will hold out a little longer to see if there is some way to retrieve it.

At least one image I need to re-render a background plate to put into an existing Photoshop document and I doubt I will be able to get it perfectly lined up....

splinters wrote:But just before the problem I saved all the scenes to a memory stick and when I opened them on another PC where they are composed correctly.

If this pc have yet the good setting in the perspective view, why not use the plugins to create a cam from this view. then select the cam and create a cam view? save the cam as an objet for your archive

Good idea Marcel...all may not be lost. I was however hoping (perhaps too optimistically) for a fix that would let me use my laptop for this today.
I am pretty sure that it has always worked in the past, even if you close the window as long as you open the scene with a perspective view.

Mmmm, I will try in tS7.6 and see what happens.

a lot of setting in model side are not saved with TS7.61. I definitely use 7.6. for example: 7.61 don't save all the setting of the hdri menu. A big problem to re-render the same image.

The Find Camera plugin can create a camera from a perspective view and prevent accidents like this. One of those must-have modeler features.....

Well, opening in tS7.6 solves the problem; I just need to install all my Shaders/Simbionts etc. for compatibility. Didn't realise this was an issue in 7.61. Progress eh?

Problem fixed already but ... is there a way in 6.6 or modelside to save the state, including the windows and views, to a file? Then you would have a backup to reload from. Also you could have made the file on the computer that loads correctly from the stick and then used the file on the other one.

Just always use a camera for the perspective view and avoid this.

I mentioned the bugs on the modelside with ts7.61 on Califorum. For model side use always ts7.6. there is no new update for this side. I don't know if it is possible to save the setting of the size of a windows. If you use a cam view, it is not important. to have the same cam view of an old scene, just resize the cam windows with the value of your old image. Or a proportionnal size if the image is too big.
an other bug interesting to know: if you use a very large zoom with the cam. the scene don't save it and when you re-open the scene, the cam have a default setting for the zoom. You lost the framing. I don't know exactly the max zoom you can use before TS bug but if you need that for your render, don't forget to write the value of the zoom (in a paper ) before close TS.
It is as important to know the bug as the function of TS.

A trick: if you have a config with several windows and differents size for each, you can make a copy of the setting of TS after closed the soft. Keep these files with your work. If you need to work later with your project, you can erase the current setting and recover the old setting. Just put the old files on the folder of TS before open it.

Cheers guys, I am dumping 7.61 but it seems I put hot keys in the workspace side of 7.6 and now I cannot add them in model side.

Can anyone remember how to delete the hot keys from workspace side of 7.6?